calendar? Susanne got first feedback from LF, will be ok.
Password reminder: the lower case place we are going to
2008-02-21 Ram waits for susanne's slides
2008-02-05 Susanne wants to start a glossary
backport source / patches Susanne is examining symversion correlation between distro releases, kernel flavors and the mainline kernel releases.
She's got some Symbol.modversion files from Martin, Jon promised to proivde the same, needs to figure how to get them for the corresponding vanilla upstream kernels.
At the summit we agreed that this part will rest until we have contributors from IHVs who actually want the benefits of shared API patches and such.
All the OSVs, CSIs and ISVs need is a standard _output_ of these efforts so they don't have to deal with per-IHV driver backport formats.
2008-06-12 Susanne to finish with Matt how driver backports shall be provided.
driver package / driver kit build Jon said that he is attempting to bring kmod compatible to kmp in the rhel5.3 timeframe. Martin Wilck suggested a approach based on m4 macros. A idea based on having a different spec file and tools that converted it to the spec file format of the distros was discussed.
2008-05-15 Ann Davis joined the group. She volunteered to work towards a common specfile:http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/KMP_packaging_and_build#possible_common_solutions
2008-06-12 Discussed spec file unification with Andreas Gruenbacher, Jon,
Ann, Ram and Susanne:
driver package / driver kit selection, installation regarding online driver database that Jon is developing, he expected the tool to be frowned upon by the community distro by Fedora since they did not have the concept of standardized ABI. But wants it to be pushed into Fedora so that it can easily make its way into RHEL6. Susanne was not clear if the tool will be incorporated into OpenSuse and later into SLES11.
Martin said he will have a working prototype of his driver management gui tool soon. Ram has volunteered Jon to help him progress faster. Jon will send Ram a mail with details on how/where to start.
Martin announced the first public version of Jockey, the driver management GUI tool for announcing and installing drivers. It landed in the current Ubuntu development release and replaces the old Ubuntu specific restricted-manager. Jon intends to have a port for Fedora/RedHat soon. Adoption by OpenSUSE is not determined yet.
2008-02-05 Jon intends to resurrect http://drivertool.org until monday for martin
2008-02-21 - kde frontend for Jockey available - driver database stand-alone (like rhel 'satelite' or Novell stand-allone customer-center) comes 'later'. Discussed wether this is a differentiator each company solves differently or wether it should have a connection to satelite/ncc while being a simple to use, simple to deploy standardized component. Agreed that first we do the base technology so we fully understand the implications, then we address this.
2008-06-12 - Martin is looking at PackageKit as X-plat package installation backend - Ram offered intern to _use_ and _try_ the driver DB API until he can actually contribute code,
Jon to provide Ram the needed infos and needed access to the system.
workgroup announcement / publicity — have something specific first The group felt it was better to have something concrete before we further publicise the workgroup.
Jon revives the driver database and intends to have a working prototype of a RedHat port of Jockey soon.
Susanne is working on a self-serviceable build server for driver packages. Involve component vendors We are discussing how driver authors of component vendors should work with system vendors and distributors. We don't have many active component vendors in this workgroup yet. So we need to get them aboard. We brainstormed who could contact whom:
2008-02-05 Jon intends to ping Arjan van de Ven at intel before the next call 2008-02-21 -"- qlogic: Andrew Vasquez
intel: Kirsher, Jeffrey T [jeffrey.t.kirsher at intel.com] has joined the list already
2008-02-08 Susanne invited via to the workgroup: 'interesting mid-term'
LF Japan Symposium (march 2008) Susanne will present the workgroup at the symposium. She intends to share the slides beforehand for comments.
Good out of tree driver example: GPL webcam drivers (from the french guy. URL??)
2008-02-05 susanne wants to provide expanded outline in time for next call (done 2008-02-14) 2008-02-21 susanne wants to provide expanded outline in time for next call
LF Austin Collaboration Summit (april 8-10 2008) Anticipated attendance:
People to meet with / involve:
Hotel: Dan Kohn suggested double tree
2008-02-21 Susanne to share schedule here and on list as soon as available
PostponedValue of this Workgroup For Community Distributions Fedora currently seems to favour updating to the current upstream kernel to add newly supported hardware, even if that may break some existing systems.
openSUSE seems to prefer security bugfix backports only, however potentially breaking the kABI in openSUSE releases. That keeps installed users in a tested environment yet requires some driver process for new hardware. DoneWorkgroup Focus Area Determination The workgroup has three major focus areas:
Introduction This is the currently active members of this workgroup: