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| ====== Meeting Minutes 2017-06-06 ====== | ====== Meeting Minutes 2017-06-06 ====== | ||
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| - | ===== How to encourage more industry engagement on our monthly call? ===== | + | |
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| - | * We are reaching out to other foundations. | + | |
| - | * Does it make sense to include more traditional industry? | + | |
| - | * yes, Intel e.g. has diversity initiatives | + | |
| - | * Based on our conversations, industry people are interested in metrics, especially in the technical community | + | |
| - | * Does it make sense to approach and invite individual people? | + | |
| - | * We want to coordinate who contacts whom, to not overload people | + | |
| - | * Kate and Matt will coordinate the outreach | + | |
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| - | ===== CHAOSS Governance document ===== | + | |
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| - | * For the most part, the governance document is finished | + | |
| - | * We would like other foundations to give input, to make the initiative a true industry-wide effort | + | |
| - | * Kate is contacting other foundations | + | |
| - | * We don't know yet if the tool side (CHAOSS Tool Committee) has signed off on the governance document | + | |
| - | * No major items appear to be outstanding | + | |
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| - | ===== Advancing the four initial metrics ===== | + | |
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| - | * Linux Con / OSS Summit: Proposal is put in to have a workshop for the value-driven metric "Project Growth - Maturity - Decline" | + | |
| - | * What is the way forward? | + | |
| - | * Missouri is actively working on implementing it | + | |
| - | * Is there a way for sharing even a rough draft with the group? | + | |
| - | * A mockup will be sent to the mailing list for discussion, in advance to OSS Summit | + | |
| - | * Assumption is that people will not trust the metrics: | + | |
| - | * The challenge is to make metrics trustable, | + | |
| - | * E.g. find similar project to focal project and compare the, for example, starting phase... | + | |
| - | * Radar graph is one approach, another is using a baseline | + | |
| - | * Wiki looks much better. | + | |
| - | * How do you minimize the many individual metrics on the maturity value-driven metric | + | |
| - | * Maybe do this during the OSS Summit | + | |
| - | * How do we carve a path, so that people can start believing or disbelieving metrics? | + | |
| - | * "Integrate early and often" perspective drove above question | + | |
| - | * We are very interested in figuring out, what the metrics could be, | + | |
| - | * The code Committee and Missouri are two tooling groups that instantiate the metrics | + | |
| - | * The people can then use the instantiations as a way to understand the metrics | + | |
| - | * OPNFV has been working with Bitergia for 2+ years. There is plenty of data to start piloting with the OPNFV community. | + | |
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| - | ===== Future events to target ===== | + | |
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| - | * Are there are other events that we want to target? Non-LF events? | + | |
| - | * OSCON in Austin ... there is a community manager track (was in May 2017) | + | |
| - | * Bitergia is involved there, and there is a metrics track | + | |
| - | * Maybe take part in the pre-conference event by Bitergia where they do a full day of metrics: GrimoireCon North America | + | |
| - | * FOSDEM in Brussels (February) | + | |
| - | * CFP is in November for February, speakers are notified around Christmas | + | |
| - | * Bitergia is hosting the GrimoireCon Europe prior to FOSDEM | + | |
| - | * Mining Software Repositories (ACM Conference/Workshop) | + | |
| - | * Was in Argentina last year, maybe next year. | + | |
| - | * Is more academic oriented | + | |
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| - | ===== Miscellaneous ===== | + | |
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| - | * Next meeting will be July 11 (4th of July is a U.S. national holiday) | + | |
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| - | ===== Attendance ===== | + | |
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| - | (alphabetical by first name) | + | |
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| - | * Derek Howard | + | |
| - | * Georg Link | + | |
| - | * Kevin Lumbard | + | |
| - | * Matt Germonprez | + | |
| - | * Matt Levy | + | |
| - | * Peter Monks | + | |
| - | * Ray Pike | + | |
| - | * Sean Goggins | + | |