JS: only half of our usual participants; no one from Novell or CodeThink, so we will postpone the D-Bus conversation (save for the web site update aspect) until our next meeting
For Reference: IAccessible2 RFC concluded 30 June 2008; fielded a few comments; Pete Brunet and the IAccessible2 SIG have reviewed the comments, made slight changes, and have frozen the specification in preparation for the entire Open A11y Workgoup's approval. Once Workgroup approval has been obtained, IAccessible2, version 1.0.2 will be forwarded to The Linux Foundation's board for approval by our umbrella organization.
JS: IAccessibl2, version 1.0.2
JS: Will, has Peter Korn provided any feedback?
WW: not yet had time to review;
WW: question for PeteB -- are you going to go through IAccessible2 to compare with AT-SPI?
PB: not since a year ago -- Aaron Leventhal did review; no major changes
JS: do we want to take an additional week for review?
WW: I can't vote on it -- Peter Korn the Sun rep for that; set a deadline
PB: understand PeteK being busy
PB: would appreciate feedback from PeteK -- shall we set a due date for IAccessible2 review?
JS: will call PeterK directly
WW: notify him on-list that vote was postponed pending his review
JS: will do -- want to make sure IAccessible2 properly vetted, but also want to move forward
ACTION: JS - ping Peter Korn and with deadline for IAccesible2 voting (16 September 2008)
WW: GNOME 2008 Summit begins October 13 in Boston
JS: a lot of us likely to be there: RobT, MikeG, Mark, Janina
WW: venue: Boston - MIT Sloane School of Business
WW: inviting Mark, Mike and Rob to present their work
GJR: please provide info for Open A11y News
WW: will do when ready
JS: will there be an opportunity to discuss GDM issues? would love to display some of the problems, as i believe some could be dealt with quickly
WW: Fedora and RedHat rewriting GDM; not apparently going to fix outstanding bugs, but overhaul it with accessibility as part of design; will have to wait until new stuff is out to log bugs if necessary
WW: RedHat in Boston area, so trying to get some representatives at GNOME Summit 2008
JS: conversation on resolution or common approaches?
JS: biggest hole is accessible log in
WW: works well on Ubuntu and Solaris; works fairly well on Open Suse; need to ascertain what others are doing that is blocking speaking log-in
JS: mixed environment: consoles and GUI - Pulse Audio not friendly to consoles or to accessible GUI login; workaround to start pulse at login
JS: like to discuss cleanup approaches to audio environment; functionally a bit of a mess; if use pulse, running as daemon, might be universal solution
WW: not solveable at GNOME level; can influence, but someone needs to work on Pulse audio directly; Solaris doesn't use pulse; linux-platform issue -- facillitating a common solution is the key
JS: common place to address this?
WW: Linux World conference?
JS: there just was one in August
JS: collaborative Linux Foundation summit next spring could be a target; general move to PulseAudio as audio management environment
WW: Luke Yelavich at Ubuntu has long been a champion of PulseAudio, would like to know what his feelings are now -- at forefront of integrating and testing audio
JS: LukeY is a speakup user and console user, so should be up-to-speed on those issues; he's also a signatory of SOI
WW: someone has to figure this out -- if we can facillitate, we should
JS: can talk it up at GNOME 2008 in Boston
JS: perhaps can spark something in Boston
JS: other issues?
JS: meet next week? or in 2 weeks?
WW: 2 weeks - should be able to get PeteK's IAccessible review by then
RESOLVED: The next Open A11y call will be held on 16 September 2008