Minutes Mar 31 2010

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Mats Wichmann (Intel), Jeff Licquia (LF), Stew Benedict (LF), Alan Clark (Novell), Robert Schweikert (Novell), Alexey Khoroshilov (ISP/RAS), Jiri Dhulos (Novell)


Review of 4.0 update status, F2F topics.

Jeff: F2F http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/LSB_F2F_Spring_2010. Still need to check with Jim to see if he can sit in on a Mon or Tues session on the state of LSB. Rest of Mon/Tues not a formal schedule. Thurs, more formal sessions, per the schedule in the link. Friday: OpenPrinting joint session and wrapup of unfinished business.
Jeff: Do we need to formalize some topics for Mon/Tues, or topics people want to add? Robert: Need to have a discussion on the appbat

Jeff: Have started doing builds for the 4.0 update; have desktop-test, olver-core, runtime-test (core-test). Some issues with olver-core in the new s390 chroot, no java. Still several other test packages to build.

Jeff: Has anyone noted any issues with the updated sdk?

Jeff: app-checker and dist-checker betas are up. Did some rework of the locally installed app-checker, hoping to get feedback on that build.
Robert: I'll try to test that today.

Jeff: Update work has been taking up time that we should be spending on 4.1. Hoping that once these are out the door we can focus on 4.1. Stew has been doing markup for t2c-alsa. Hope to integrate the building of the t2c files from the markup soon. Seem to be in fairly good shape as far as making progress here.
Jeff: Not sure where we stand as far as the spec updates for 4.1. Java requirements, cups additions... Have we made any progress?
Mats: At almost the same point we were at 4.0.
Jeff: Something holding these up?
Mats: Mostly just lack of spare cycles. Some concerns with some of the proposed additions.
Jeff: If there are concerns we should probably get those addressed. Perhaps some of the rest of us can pickup some of the spec work.
Mats: Most time consuming part is the writing of man pages.
Jeff: We have the rollup bug(s) for the tasks that are open. http://bugs.linuxbase.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2778. You'll find off of that rollup, the specification related blockers, and if anyone wants to write man pages to address any of those, please do.
Mats: We have some issues where we don't have a good template for documenting C++ things. Also an issue where we don't have an easy way to see the end result without generating the whole spec.
Jeff: Maybe we can introduce some sort of incremental build mode.
Mats: Should be possible with some docbook boilerplate.

Jeff: Any other questions or comments on 4.1 issues?

Mats: Different topic. Snapshots of the to-be 4.1 depend on lsb = 4.1, which is causing issues on distributions (Ubuntu in this case) that don't provide 4.1 yet. How do we handle this?
Jeff: Issue comes from appbat apps that have a 4.1 dependency. Perhaps we relax this for appbat apps, lsb-python in particular that are used by other packages. Or we could drop the dep on lsb-python and use the system python.
Stew: I don't think we can do that, it's tied to a specific python build (binary shared lib).
Jeff: Perhaps we build the dependant appbat apps for an older LSB version.
Stew: sounds workable
Jeff: perhaps we do that in the pending 4.0 update
Stew: don't think it really impacts 4.0
Jeff: anythings else?

Jeff: closing remarks