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====== Meeting Minutes 2018-01-09 ======
Start: 1pm CT; End: 1:58pm CT.

===== Attendees on Call =====

  * Andrea Gallo
  * Armstrong
  * Ben Lloyd Pearson
  * Brian Proffit
  * Daniel Izquierdo
  * Georg Link
  * Ildiko Vancsa
  * Jason Clark
  * Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona
  * Kevin Lumbard
  * Matt Germonprez
  * Mel Llaguno
  * Neil Chue Hong
  * Ray Paik
  * Sean Goggins
  * Vicky Janicki

===== IRC Meeting Minutes =====

==== #chaoss-community: Monthly Call ====

Meeting started by GeorgLink at 19:01:58 UTC. The full logs are below in Section [[#irc-log|IRC Log]].

==== Meeting summary ====


  * CHAOSS Events  (GeorgLink, 19:02:51)
    * Formerly GrimoireCon will now be CHAOSSCon. The agenda is still in the works.  (GeorgLink, 19:04:09)
    * in March, we have the Open Source Leadership Summit and we'll have several submissions from CHAOSS members  (GeorgLink, 19:05:10)
    * LINK: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-source-leadership-summit-2018/program/cfp/ CFP page  (rpaik, 19:05:30)
    * Vicky and Ray will submit a talk about experience with metrics (GeorgLink, 19:05:56)
    * Matt and Daniel are submitting a Birds of a Feather session for Diversity and Inclusion  (GeorgLink, 19:06:41)
    * correction, it's ildikov & rpaik for Open Source Leadership Summit session  (rpaik, 19:07:02)
    * Jesus, Sean, and Georg will work on a proposal to give an overview of CHAOSS Metrics and Software with lessons learned in the Grimoire work  (GeorgLink, 19:11:13)
    * Preliminary CHAOSScon agenda is expected tomorrow  (GeorgLink, 19:12:59)
    * Open Source Summit North America: something to think about. Maybe have a day-long workshop before the conference.  (GeorgLink, 19:13:45)
    * Open Source Summit Asia ???  (GeorgLink, 19:16:52)
    * ACTION: Create a presentation slide deck that we can take and talk about CHAOSS at various events  (GeorgLink, 19:17:24)
    * Linux World in China is another conference with more Community orientation than the OSSA in Japan  (GeorgLink, 19:19:16)

  * Risk Metric  (GeorgLink, 19:20:39)
    * update on metrics: Most metrics are receiving good attention and are developing well.  (GeorgLink, 19:21:23)
    * LINK: https://github.com/chaoss/metrics/blob/master/3_Risk.md Risk metrics  (rpaik, 19:21:58)
    * Risk metric will get more attention and participants are requested. Outreach planned.  (GeorgLink, 19:22:10)
    * LINK: https://github.com/GeorgLink/whitepaper/blob/master/whitepaper.md whitepaper  (rpaik, 19:24:35)

  * CHAOSS Metrics White paper  (GeorgLink, 19:24:37)
    * the white paper is supposed to be an update of the community (GeorgLink, 19:25:43)

  * CHAOSS Software-side updates  (GeorgLink, 19:26:01)
    * GHData is maturing and will socialize the roadmap and what is planned next.  (GeorgLink, 19:27:10)
    * GrimoireLab is moving repositories to the CHAOSS repositories. Goal: complete between CHAOSSCon.  (GeorgLink, 19:27:43)
    * GrimoireLab is working on documentation and containers to make deployment easier  (GeorgLink, 19:28:25)
    * GrimoireLab would like a community-oriented installation (of the container) with CHAOSS data and capability for people to add other repositories. A test server to play with the software.  (GeorgLink, 19:32:24)
    * LINK: https://github.com/chaoss/metrics/issues/44  (GeorgLink, 19:34:22)
    * ACTION: We have a long list of activity metrics and will do a better job at linking to it.  (GeorgLink, 19:36:45)
    * we may want to link the metrics to implementations  (GeorgLink, 19:37:10)

  * CHAOSS presentation  (GeorgLink, 19:37:42)
    * What is the consistent story that comes out of CHAOSS, especially since we have different software and committees?  (GeorgLink, 19:38:07)
    * on the software side, there used to be a roadmap for integrating the software. We need to put more time and resources to this. (GeorgLink, 19:40:36)

  * CHAOSS Diversity and Inclusion Project/Repository  (GeorgLink, 19:42:05)
    * LINK: https://github.com/chaoss/wg_diversity_inclusion  (GeorgLink, 19:42:22)
    * this project can integrate the metrics and software side in a meaningful way. How does the metric work inform the software and vice versa.  (GeorgLink, 19:43:36)
    * maybe defining how to produce other reports---adopt the diversity report as a risk report---to inform the relationship between software and metrics (in the future)  (GeorgLink, 19:47:14)
    * Neil Chue Hong (via Zoom Chat): +1 to the idea of creating reports, particularly as a way of helping join up the work of the Metrics and Software groups, even if the reports are not "complete". (GeorgLink, 19:48:14)

  * OTHER TOPICS  (GeorgLink, 19:48:42)
    * Jesus would like a series of webinars or Hangouts on GrimoireLab. The webinar would be recorded to be used as a documentation and tutorial in the future.  (GeorgLink, 19:49:37)
    * "How would you conceptualize a quality model for metrics and visualizations?"  (GeorgLink, 19:53:41)



Meeting ended at 19:57:04 UTC.



==== People present (lines said) ====

  * GeorgLink (39)
  * rpaik (5)
  * collabot (3)



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===== IRC Log =====

  19:01:58 <GeorgLink> #startmeeting Monthly Call
  19:01:58 <collabot> Meeting started Tue Jan  9 19:01:58 2018 UTC.  The chair is GeorgLink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
  19:01:58 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
  19:01:58 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'monthly_call'
  19:02:12 <GeorgLink> Hi everyone!
  19:02:51 <GeorgLink> #topic CHAOSS Events
  19:04:09 <GeorgLink> #info Formerly GrimoireCon will now be CHAOSSCon. The agenda is still in the works.
  19:05:10 <GeorgLink> #info in March, we have the Open Source Leadership Summit and we'll have several submissions from CHAOSS members
  19:05:30 <rpaik> #link https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/open-source-leadership-summit-2018/program/cfp/ CFP page
  19:05:56 <GeorgLink> #info Vicky and Ray will submit a talk about experience with metrics
  19:06:41 <GeorgLink> #info Matt and Daniel are submitting a Birds of a Feather session for Diversity and Inclusion
  19:07:02 <rpaik> #info correction, it's ildikov & rpaik for Open Source Leadership Summit session
  19:07:13 <GeorgLink> Thanks Ray!
  19:08:13 <rpaik> you're welcome GeorgLink 😃
  19:11:13 <GeorgLink> #info Jesus, Sean, and Georg will work on a proposal to give an overview of CHAOSS Metrics and Software with lessons learned in the Grimoire work
  19:12:59 <GeorgLink> #info Preliminary CHAOSScon agenda is expected tomorrow
  19:13:45 <GeorgLink> #info Open Source Summit North America: something to think about. Maybe have a day-long workshop before the conference.
  19:16:52 <GeorgLink> #info Open Source Summit Asia ???
  19:17:24 <GeorgLink> #action Create a presentation slide deck that we can take and talk about CHAOSS at various events
  19:19:16 <GeorgLink> #info Linux World in China is another conference with more Community orientation than the OSSA in Japan
  19:20:39 <GeorgLink> #topic Risk Metric
  19:21:23 <GeorgLink> #info update on metrics: Most metrics are receiving good attention and are developing well.
  19:21:58 <rpaik> #link https://github.com/chaoss/metrics/blob/master/3_Risk.md Risk metrics
  19:22:10 <GeorgLink> #info Risk metric will get more attention and participants are requested. Outreach planned.
  19:24:35 <rpaik> #link https://github.com/GeorgLink/whitepaper/blob/master/whitepaper.md whitepaper
  19:24:37 <GeorgLink> #topic CHAOSS Metrics White paper
  19:25:43 <GeorgLink> #info the white paper is supposed to be an update of the community
  19:26:01 <GeorgLink> #topic CHAOSS Software-side updates
  19:27:10 <GeorgLink> #info GHData is maturing and will socialize the roadmap and what is planned next.
  19:27:43 <GeorgLink> #info GrimoireLab is moving repositories to the CHAOSS repositories. Goal: complete between CHAOSSCon.
  19:28:25 <GeorgLink> #info GrimoireLab is working on documentation and containers to make deployment easier
  19:32:24 <GeorgLink> #info GrimoireLab would like a community-oriented installation (of the container) with CHAOSS data and capability for people to add other repositories. A test server to play with the software.
  19:34:22 <GeorgLink> #link https://github.com/chaoss/metrics/issues/44
  19:36:45 <GeorgLink> #action We have a long list of activity metrics and will do a better job at linking to it.
  19:37:10 <GeorgLink> #info we may want to link the metrics to implementations
  19:37:42 <GeorgLink> #topic CHAOSS presentation
  19:38:07 <GeorgLink> #info What is the consistent story that comes out of CHAOSS, especially since we have different software and committees?
  19:40:36 <GeorgLink> #info on the software side, there used to be a roadmap for integrating the software. We need to put more time and resources to this.
  19:42:05 <GeorgLink> #topic CHAOSS Diversity and Inclusion Project/Repository
  19:42:22 <GeorgLink> #link https://github.com/chaoss/wg_diversity_inclusion
  19:43:36 <GeorgLink> #info this project can integrate the metrics and software side in a meaningful way. How does the metric work inform the software and vice versa.
  19:47:14 <GeorgLink> #info maybe defining how to produce other reports---adopt the diversity report as a risk report---to inform the relationship between software and metrics (in the future)
  19:48:14 <GeorgLink> #info Neil Chue Hong (via Zoom Chat): +1 to the idea of creating reports, particularly as a way of helping join up the work of the Metrics and Software groups, even if the reports are not "complete".
  19:48:42 <GeorgLink> #topic OTHER TOPICS
  19:49:37 <GeorgLink> #info Jesus would like a series of webinars or Hangouts on GrimoireLab. The webinar would be recorded to be used as a documentation and tutorial in the future.
  19:53:41 <GeorgLink> #info "How would you conceptualize a quality model for metrics and visualizations?"
  19:57:04 <GeorgLink> #endmeeting
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