======lfjapansymposiumtokyo2007minutesmarkus====== Introduction Participants: Jin Izumisawa - Linux Foundation Japan Naru... - Ricoh Fumio Nagasaka - Epson Osamu Mihara - Fuji Xerox Tatsuya Saito - NEC Soft Olaf Meeeuwissen - Avasys Yuji Saito - Avasys Akiyoshi Miyata - Avasys Atsushi Sekiguchi - Konica Minolta Keisho Shida - Canon Yasumasa Toratani - Canon ... - Turbo Linux ... - Ricoh Markus Rex - Linux Foundation Till Kamppeter - Linux Foundation Request to meet regularily in Japan by Shida-san Till present Montreal summit results Till requests help with embedded printing, as Glen Petrie was reassigned Nagasaka-san promised to reevaluate reassignment of Glen Till gives overview about status of OP workgroup status Shida-san mentions that JTAPI, PDAPI have different 'nearly complete' status Till suggests update in email after the summit so he can upload correct slides Update will have new status with "spec-complete", "design-complete", "implementation-complete" etc. Discussion about future direction of OP workgroup Till presents Print system validation & OP Japan F2F printer validation results Also presentation of printer validation plans Nagasaka-san comments of USB-port being less common than parallel and network Discussion about prioritazation of future direction. Vendors suggest to change "validation" to "compatibility verification" to avoid confusion with legal responsibility of "validation". Full agreement that user experience is most important goal, and Linux distributions need method to improve that experience. Proposal: small subgroup from vendors, distribution and maybe application develop guideline proposal which will be shared with bigger group. goal is to provide automatic framework for user experience testing and compatibility. Each part (vendor, distribution, application) needs self-testing capability to allow independent testing. Coordination will happen via OP SC and mailinglists. Till will coordinate and involve all groups. Proposal from Nagasaka-san to invite Apple to OP to reduce testing costs. Till presents LSB integration plans. Olaf suggests to think about using SANE for camera. Automated driver download: vendors request download data. Till will add offer to subscription service to get access to numbers. Till presents PDF workflow overview Till presents Common Printing Dialog Till presents Final summit notes Question from Nagasaka-san on goal of OpenUsability dialog design. Answer: goal is to include common printer dialog into KDE/GNOME so distributions pick it up. Important are vendor-specific features inside dialog. Till demonstrates current state of dialog. Printer vendors are asked to provide feedback on concept, and maybe start working already towards this. Please provide feedback based on MMIworks current website and do so by end of November. Nagasaka-san suggests feedback from printer to dialog via CUPS. Till is sceptical that current version of CUPS can do this. Design should be completed before design meeting early 2008. Till will create draft specification for dialog and PPD extension by mid-December. Strong desire by vendors to have PPD handling done in central place, like a common library. Olaf suggested CUPS PPD API. Scepsis on implementation in GNOME... Also scepsis on how to solve conflicts in PPD. So far OpenUsability has no solution firmly set. If there is any proposal, please suggest it at the mailing list. Version 1 very important. Suggestion on device discovery: not only focus on USB, but also work on discovery on network device. Discussion on the PDF workflow: very little interest by Japanese vendors to provide work on pdftoijs [TILL PLEASE CONFIRM HERE]. HP as main user should do the work. Vendors will discuss participation on work on pdftoraster and pdftotext. Vendors will discuss their position on PDF workflow at next Japanese OP meeting and provide feedback on the mailinglist and/or to Till directly. Driver packaging: 3 subtopics: 1. Setup tool 2. Servers with printer drivers 3. Requirements for automated driver download on 1. part of distribution packages and work with distribution on 2. A) open printing server should be the main driver upload server B) create links from open printing database to vendor's site Strong preference by LF for A) on 3. The LF to define requirements for automatic update and download infrastructure. --> Set up uploading HOWTO Request is to clarify the rating system and what the criteria are. It will be possible for vendors to change ratings. Toratani-san would like to see quick improvement from Canon's perspective. Suggestion by Sekiguchi-san to clearly disalign new automated system from existing rating/user registered system. Markus and Till to discuss and report back. Plan is to have 2 OP meetings in Japan each year, linked to the LF Japan Symposium.