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====== Meeting Minutes 2017-06-06 ======

Start 13:03; End: 13:28 (CT)

===== How to encourage more industry engagement on our monthly call? =====

  * We are reaching out to other foundations.
  * Does it make sense to include more traditional industry?
    * yes, Intel e.g. has diversity initiatives
    * Based on our conversations, industry people are interested in metrics, especially in the technical community
  * Does it make sense to approach and invite individual people?
    * We want to coordinate who contacts whom, to not overload people
    * Kate and Matt will coordinate the outreach

===== CHAOSS Governance document =====

  * For the most part, the governance document is finished
  * We would like other foundations to give input, to make the initiative a true industry-wide effort
    * Kate is contacting other foundations
  * We don't know yet if the tool side (CHAOSS Tool Committee) has signed off on the governance document
    * No major items appear to be outstanding

===== Advancing the four initial metrics =====

  * Linux Con / OSS Summit: Proposal is put in to have a workshop for the value-driven metric "Project Growth - Maturity - Decline"
  * What is the way forward?
    * Missouri is actively working on implementing it
      * Is there a way for sharing even a rough draft with the group?
      * A mockup will be sent to the mailing list for discussion, in advance to OSS Summit
      * Assumption is that people will not trust the metrics:
      * The challenge is to make metrics trustable,
      * E.g. find similar project to focal project and compare the, for example, starting phase...
      * Radar graph is one approach, another is using a baseline
  * Wiki looks much better.
    * How do you minimize the many individual metrics on the maturity value-driven metric
    * Maybe do this during the OSS Summit
  * How do we carve a path, so that people can start believing or disbelieving metrics?
    * "Integrate early and often" perspective drove above question
      * We are very interested in figuring out, what the metrics could be,
      * The code Committee and Missouri are two tooling groups that instantiate the metrics
      * The people can then use the instantiations as a way to understand the metrics
    * OPNFV has been working with Bitergia for 2+ years. There is plenty of data to start piloting with the OPNFV community.

===== Future events to target =====

  * Are there are other events that we want to target? Non-LF events?
    * OSCON in Austin ... there is a community manager track (was in May 2017)
      * Bitergia is involved there, and there is a metrics track
      * Maybe take part in the pre-conference event by Bitergia where they do a full day of metrics: GrimoireCon North America
    * FOSDEM in Brussels (February)
      * CFP is in November for February, speakers are notified around Christmas
      * Bitergia is hosting the GrimoireCon Europe prior to FOSDEM
    * Mining Software Repositories (ACM Conference/Workshop)
      * Was in Argentina last year, maybe next year.
      * Is more academic oriented

===== Miscellaneous =====

  * Next meeting will be July 11 (4th of July is a U.S. national holiday)

===== Attendance =====

(alphabetical by first name)

  * Derek Howard
  * Georg Link
  * Kevin Lumbard
  * Matt Germonprez
  * Matt Levy
  * Peter Monks
  * Ray Pike
  * Sean Goggins